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This “slightly bonkers” blog gets a fair amount of net traffic, but not because of my illuminating insight on Japan nor my biting wit. As far as my stats suggest, everyone mostly drops in to gawk at the pictures of elementary school bikini idol and crossover-child-semi-porn celebrity Saaya Irie. Japanese entrepreneurs may have been the first ones to suspect men like to look at pictures of near-naked fifth-graders, but apparently the consumer demand is global. Unfortunately for Saaya, her “musical group” Sweet Kiss disbanded before they could ever put out any music. My guess is that everyone is following her every move to get hints on the nature of her future musical output — the prodigious F-cup breasts are just a side distraction.

I am not personally interested in this “low teen idol” boom sweeping Japan, but like many, I can’t ignore the societal implications. For a while, Cyzo and their contributor Shinsan Nameko had a story on the market almost every month. In one of the interviews with a participant and her mother, the wannabe idol talked about how doing photos where you “accidentally can see panties” or featuring the “hand-bra” were not really for 12 year olds — but okay when you are 15. Off camera to her friends: Mom won’t let me do anything! Dad!!!!! Is it okay if I do 手ブラ shots?!

The other day, I innocently followed a link to a story about accusations of racist manga from the 2-ch “Itai” News blog and found myself looking at a banner ad for http://www.imouto.tv/ — your one-stop source for “only elementary school and middle school girls” posing in swimsuits and spreading their legs in gym shorts. For those unfamiliar with Japanese, “imouto” (妹) means “little sister.” The site brags that all of its models are under 15 (U-15限定).

The pricing structure for access works exactly like members-only hardcore pornography sites, and the payment system suggests the target market is an older clientele. (I doubt kids are asking their parents for the funds to join up.) The poses, costumes, and general atmosphere are almost identical to normal Japanese pornography — except for the two small pieces of bikini cloth that the pesky legal system requires. (Puritans!) For those into looking behind the curtain, the domain is registered to an “Eichi” based at the same address of Miracle Studio in Ebisu.

Now, I don’t want to suggest that this site is mainstream. My guess is that it generally attracts those with a sociopathic attraction to prepubescent girls, and judging by the ad placement on an Akihabara otaku-focused site, serious trouble dealing with women in what we call the “legal zone” (O-18 in industry-speak) who make up the vast majority of females in Japan. While Saaya Irie’s Weekly Playboy-produced photo book tried to convince the mass T-n-A audience of the virtues of the newly-emerging neo-pedophilia market, this “not-porn” porn site at imouto.tv is the newly-emerging neo-pedophilia market.

My biggest question about imouto.tv is, where are these girls coming from? Who in the world thinks this is their daughter’s “big break” to bigger things? Now I can see a parallel with the ultra-creepy low-teen beauty pageants breaking out like a rash upon the North American heartland, but at least in that case, girls are competing for some kind of prize. They are not posing in swimsuits on a “members-only” site targeted towards socially-dysfunctional men. I don’t think we are really missing any context here — anyone Japanese or otherwise can guess what imouto.tv is about within five seconds of gander time. Wouldn’t inclusion on this site now would lead to a relatively big scandal for an actress/singer in the future?

The only advantage of peddling young flesh now — besides the medium-sized payout to the enterprising parents — is if the girl was determined to be a gravure idol in the future. This way, her fans could escalate with her into a more profound high-school career. But honestly speaking, wouldn’t these guys stop being interested when things hit 16? There is nothing scarier than girls who know trigonometry. To the true U-15 fan, college girls may as well be mountain hag zombies who eat your brains. (Not to mention the overpowering 加齢臭!)

The thing no one ever says about gravure though is that it’s no one’s first choice. The girls are all aspiring actresses and musicians who are not talented enough or connected enough to get cast in anything, so their production company pushes them to pose in bikinis and get filmed walking gleefully in slo-mo. Some girls have crossed over these days — MEGUMI and the anomalous, yet ubiquitous Hoshino Aki (ancient at 29) — but most girls stay in gravure or worse. (Maybe sometime we can talk about rumors of the high-class brothels set up across Tokyo staffed by the unpopular girls in major talent agencies so they can pay for their singing and dancing lessons.) The U-15 cadets are also probably aiming for world-domination in the guise of singers and actresses, but somebody (with an eye on revenues) has decided this questionable proto-gravure is the way to go for an early start. Now their parents’ great struggle towards celebrity children is yours to enjoy for ¥3000 a month.

W. David MARX (Marxy)
January 29, 2007

Marxy wrote a lot of essays back on his old site Néomarxisme. This is one of them.

53 Responses

  1. dzima Says:

    I am honestly rather confused about your intentions or what is that you’re aiming at when your posts deal with this sort of topic in here.

  2. marxy Says:

    The U-15 bikini idol market is growing in Japan, and you run into it without even looking for it.

  3. Adamu Says:

    It’s true that the seeming openness of these sites is shocking in Japan, but demand for this near-nude child porn is immense worldwide, and that includes interest in the Japanese models as you have noticed (Mutantfrog gets a fair share of Irie fans as well btw). One sad effect of the Internet’s diffusion is that it has created new markets for sexual tastes like these. Given that Lolita fantasies had been somewhat fashionable for years before the Internet’s arrival, the expansion of Internet use has made the problem even worse.

    These sites may in fact be a sort of copycat of the emerging phony modeling sites that have sprung up to cater to the US market. As for what the kids’ parents are thinking, it’s probably similar to the situation in the US: some of the girls’ parents are tricked into thinking they are being shot by a real agency while others are in denial or sick and unscrupulous.

    What’s sad is that in the US these sites are met with dogged pursuit by New York Times journalists (to the point that they have to be treated for PTSD), prosecutions and Congressional hearings, while in Japan there’s not much interest in making an issue of this at least to that point. Maybe in 10 years we’ll see an explosion of outrage at this sort of behavior once it can no longer be ignored, much like the Aruaru-Daijiten natto affair.

  4. Carl Says:

    Leave it to Japan to turn SNL’s “Holding Your Own Boobs Magazine” skit (http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/1820) into a reality.

  5. joey Says:

    Slightly bonkers to to your lack of text link or banner ads, of course!

  6. Adamu Says:

    Click on the “racist manga” link to see the disturbing banner ad. Maybe it’s safe for work in Japan, but if you’re in a country that frowns on child porn in all its forms like the US you might want to refrain from clicking.

  7. marxy Says:

    Actually, this company – http://www.charmkids.net/ – is located in the same building of the person who registered the imouto.tv name. Are they using this child talent casting agency to staff the child gravure site?

  8. Adamu Says:

    Sick. You think an enterprising investigative journalist might be interested in exposing this?

  9. marxy Says:

    Well before we accuse the company of actually doing such and not just being in the same building as a domain registration (different floors, to be honest), you could first investigate the jimushos of the girls on the site and see where everyone comes from.

  10. der Says:

    (I’ve just put in a bet on how long it will take for the first “this is just life-affirming, harmless stuff, you puritans!” comment to appear. (No bet was accepted on who will make it.))

  11. Momus Says:

    No no, not me, der — I think Mother Nature is due a good stiff kicking for even inventing things so immoral as little girls and Japanese people in the first place!

  12. marxy Says:

    This girl from Imouto.tv

    http://www.charmkids.net/profile/18yamanaka_m/

    is a member of the Charm Kids agency, which seems suspiciously-linked to Imouto.

    The scariest thing is that all the girls on the Imouto.tv site all have their own legitimate webpages and my Firefox immediately pumped out their first names when I typed out their last names – as if they are famous enough to warrant that. Imouto.tv is actually kind of the tip of the iceberg. These girls are stars in a cottage industries of magazines, DVDs, and photo books all with the words “LOLITA-KEI” typed prominently upon them.

  13. Momus Says:

    Why do I get the sense that if Marxy rather than Margaret Mead had written “Coming of Age in Samoa” it would have turned out more like a Charles Bronson movie?

  14. ChuckF Says:

    This thing is all over the place in America.

    To tell you the truth Marxy, the situation has gotten far better as time has passed, just do a google search for “Rika Nishimura” (not a safe search to do when there are other humans around) and you can see what use to be allowed, in picture books sold in actual stores in public.

    to all thoese other going on some type of justice triade: In Japan there are better things to fight for then this, like the ABSURDLY easy and cheap availability of actual hard-core Child Porn(U-15). Chances are these sites(which I’ll admit I Came across while browsing 2ch’s non-lolita voyeur section and I won’t link to for obvious reasons) have far more money making going on then the Imouto site.

  15. Aceface Says:

    民族学オタクの俺が来ましたよ。
    ” if Marxy rather than Margaret Mead had written “Coming of Age in Samoa”

    Have any of you guys read the book “Margaret Mead and Samoa”By Kiwi Anthropologist Derek Freeman?
    I have.

    From Wikipedia:

    In 1983, five years after Mead had died, Derek Freeman published Margaret Mead and Samoa: The Making and Unmaking of an Anthropological Myth, in which he challenged all of Mead’s major findings. Freeman based his critique on his own four years of field experience in Samoa and on recent interviews with Mead’s surviving informants. The argument hinged on the place of the taupou system in Samoan society. According to Mead, the taupou system is one of institutionalized virginity for young women of high rank, but is exclusive to women of high rank. According to Freeman, all Samoan women emulated the taupou system and Mead’s informants denied having engaged in casual sex as young women, and claimed that they had lied to Mead (see Freeman 1983).

    もっともこのスレとは何の関係もないね。失礼。

  16. alin Says:

    but then Freeman book was challanged to smithereens as the vicious thing it was. go google if you can be bothered, i can’t.

  17. Adamu Says:

    If is so far off the mark to consider sites like Imouto a major problem as you say, then that’s all the more horrifying.

  18. marxy Says:

    “but then Freeman book was challanged to smithereens as the vicious thing it was. go google if you can be bothered, i can’t.”

    The Freeman-Mead debate is a long old one. Take “Intro to Social Anthropology.” I don’t think either Mead or Freeman came out the winner.

    Regardless, I am pretty sure that the Samoan girls weren’t being sent out to pose for old men by their parents. I think they were sneaking out of the house to have sex (that’s if Mead’s account can be trusted) and they weren’t even doing it for their careers in entertainment! How primitive!

    “In Japan there are better things to fight for then this, like the ABSURDLY easy and cheap availability of actual hard-core Child Porn(U-15).”

    I am saying… Imouto is tip of the iceberg. So I am guessing at least.

  19. kurisu Says:

    TOO LATE, Pal.

    Where were you been when the Japanese children nude was displayed in gurabia magazines and TV commercials? Where when you could buy a Japanese children nude photobook in any adult library?

    Oh, of course! You were in USA, weren’t?

    I love the kind of post-modern orientalism you do in your blog.

    Keep working :D

    http://www.rorikon.blogspot.com

  20. Momus Says:

    It’s even more worrying what they’re doing to little brother:

    http://www.nyu.edu/pages/greyart/exhibits/shiseido/ramfiles/tvcom14_high.rpm

  21. marxy Says:

    “Oh, of course! You were in USA, weren’t?”

    The first time I came to Japan these were still legal.

    I think my interest here is not “the porn market” but the way that the crackdown on the straight up kiddy porn has brought it weirdly into the pop culture market. My guess is that the old kiddy porn stuff didn’t find models though normal “child actor” model agencies. This new stuff does, which means parental approval.

  22. alin Says:

    —the crackdown — parental approval.

    Thumbs up for those parents who have the bottle to affirm that children have bodies. The conditions might not be ideal but it’s one of the very few means to resist the PC Taliban and its regime of paranoia.

    (i feel fortunate enough to recall the joys of playing with my willie in the sand among grown-ups unconcerned and unmolested)

  23. marxy Says:

    “i feel fortunate enough to recall the joys of playing with my willie in the sand among grown-ups unconcerned and unmolested.”

    But aren’t you absolutely livid that your parents never had the decency to take pictures of you doing as such and profiting from your childhood affirmation of humanity?

  24. alin Says:

    uhm, see the situation you’re describing as somewhere between something natural and tender (in our age of visual representation) and extreme sicko paedophilia (probably best exemplified not in japan but western europe), i’m not sure which way the pendulum would swing.

    recall the tenderness in Nosaka Akiyuki’s エロ事師たち.

  25. marxy Says:

    “recall the tenderness in Nosaka Akiyuki’s エロ事師たち.”

    I’m impressed if you’ve read that in the native language. I have the relatively rare English translation that I bought on the streets of NY some years ago. Nosaka is a very interesting writer, but very difficult. I tried my way through “アメリカひじき” – which I thought was amazing in translation – but got bogged down in all the puns and innovative use of the language. If I had more time to really give a good scholarly push, I could get through it, but it’s not Murakami Haruki-esque light reading.

    If I remember correctly, the protagonist in the book has sex with his adopted daughter in the end. I am not sure how much should be taken as satire or an endorsement either.

    If we think it may be healthy not to take “Imouto.tv” as straight-up “child porn” but as some odd new pop culture market where older men are obsessed with seeing very young girls prance around in next to nothing because of their “purity” and “genki,” it’s still says something about psyche. Not “national psyche” because this isn’t everybody’s bag, but recent changes in psyche. More on that later.

  26. W.Madsen Says:

    Interesting post.
    Ironically, the day before I ran into this entry I was showing some friends dvd/gaming stores in Akihabara. I saw an entire section of early teen (some pre-teen) DVDs in the hardcore pornography section. It was the merchandising choice that really drove home the creepyness…

    Even more shocking was a sex doll modeled after what looked like a 12 year old girl…

    David, you say it may be healthy not to take Imouto as straight-up child porn.. BUT it looks like it sure as hell is being used in the same way.

  27. marxy Says:

    I said “If we think” opposed to “we think.”

    Yes, I think the contents may be downgraded from the olden days of legality, but the context remains.

  28. W.Madsen Says:

    ah, misread the first line… sorry
    -W

  29. ChuckF Says:

    Marxy – Again besides Saaya Irie, this is not a new pop culture event and you making it seem like one is deceitful. This is just new type of marketing to the same old group due to new media.

    Before they were parading around in clothing, these same girls as a step-up path in their career were parading around in no clothing. Witness Battle Royale/Kill bill’s Chiaki Kuriyama’s 14 year old Nude photo book, which while I doubt is what propelled her into stardom, it certainly wasn’t a book that was aimed at getting her into porn/ the gravue business.

    The amount of younger actress that do suggestive Gravue just starting out is a wee bit in the high range. I could go and start listing them but there is almost no need to as it is so wide-spread. Go take a look at pure magazine, sold in almost every porn book store in the land, filled with young aspiring actresses that have actually performed in things/ some sucessfull.

    Go into one of the mega-porn stores and watch with wonder as you see voyeur photographs of elementary school kids in swim class and in Gym clothing/ out in public sold for 500-1000 yen a peice.

    Looking at everything these girls are learning from Imouto it seems like they are more then ready to be prepped to go join Akiba48 or work on becoming some purdy actress and while a wee bit strange, is a valid path to start out on.

  30. marxy Says:

    “you making it seem like one is deceitful.”

    I am not sure deceitful is the right word. I am not hiding all this visible backlog of child-semi-porn to make my case. As I said, this is not something I have spent time looking for. I just keep running into it. If it’s not a new phenomemon, however, I don’t get why Cyzo bothers to run stories on it.

    “The amount of younger actress that do suggestive Gravue just starting out is a wee bit in the high range.”

    Yes, but a Masami Nagasawa wouldn’t and didn’t. If you are right, then it’s interesting that selling in this market is what you “have to do” to become a non-talent-based celebrity.

  31. ChuckF Says:

    “Yes, but a Masami Nagasawa wouldn’t and didn’t”

    nope, sorry, you lose(tell me how these picture are worse then Imuto) this is with less then a mintue of searching the web on my part, i’m sure this is more out there, I selected some choice photos from the first 100(out of 800!) that actually seem far worse/more suggestive then anything on Imouto, keep going till you get my point.

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/ (NSFW Text on page because of Search enginge spammer)

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299296.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299309.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00297741.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299278.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299146.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00297764.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299275.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299208.jpg

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299097.jpg

  32. alin Says:

    — I don’t get why Cyzo bothers to run stories on it.

    again i think you’re overrating Cyzo

    seriously you’ve got to consider these things in the wider context. i mean just as the revolted california-roll-crabstickandavocado-sushi-loving critic of (semen) bukkake should keep in mind that about half the food loved in this country has a texture, consistency and to some extent taste as if it already contains a fair quantity of semen, while much of the rest is made (by man or nature) to resemble parts or the whole of female genitalia, similarly before jumping to the conclusion that so and so thing resembles porn it’s good to go a bit further and see that just about everything (most TV shows, ads etc) actually resembles porn. or is it vice-versa rather? (remember the discussion a few weeks ago about the class-photo/brothel layout – even chris b agreed with me then). either way there’s a porn dimension running along everything and the gap to it is so narrow your attempts to pin it down are quite funny.

  33. ChuckF Says:

    Don’t ask me why but I actually spent more of my time going through that site and look who was a cover model for Pure (U-15) magazine all the way back in 2001!

    http://www.bobx.com/idol/masami-nagasawa/masami-nagasawa–00299448.jpg.

  34. marxy Says:

    ChuckF – You rightfully nailed me, but I still think the Masami pics look a bit more upscale than the chintzy porn lighting of Imouto. Could that photobook be sold in a normal bookstore out in the open? My guess is, yes, although the others are made specifically for that shady corner in the porn shops.

    In my original piece, I had a part about Shonen Jump and the 14 year old swimsuit girls on every issue, but I cut it out. I think your point is, all young women celebs are basically expected to do this stuff in Japan, and the child porn porn is much worse. I can see those points, but I think the imouto-style market is somewhere in the middle – it is less interested in justifying itself in kind of “art” photography like some of those masami pics (etc the photographers and poses are directly from porn mags) but is not illegal.

    This discussion is good though, and although I feel like something “new” is happening with all of this (why is the media drawing attention to this now instead of thinking it’s not a big development?), the refinement of definition helps. Now if I could only understand what Alin was talking about…

  35. Momus Says:

    I think he was saying that in a country where food and sex resemble each other, girls under the legal age of consent and girls over the legal age of consent have quite a lot in common too.

  36. W.Madsen Says:

    Thanks Alin, im NEVER eating Takoyaki again…

  37. Savaged Says:

    Good post. Just down the street from my house in Takadanobaba is a tiny talent agency with a huge photo of a somewhat scantily team of pre-pubescent dancers. the picture is striking because all the girls smiled look rather forced and strained. they don7t seem to be famous at all, and I always wonder what a talent agency does with its not-exactly-popular child talent.
    As far as the parents of these children allowing them to participate in qausi-porn, if parents are willing to let their sons be sodomized by Johnny Kitagawa for a shot at the big time, then I suppose its not exactly suprising.

  38. marxy Says:

    “I think he was saying that in a country where food and sex resemble each other, ”

    True. Older people in Japan have one of the lowest caloric intakes of all the developed countries and also the lowest amount of non-market sex.

  39. Aceface Says:

    The best served RAW,you mean.

  40. marxy Says:

    I know – since this “food = sex” meme is a stern scientific observation rather than a literary device – Japanese people BUY food in huge numbers (there are many fast food chains in the island nation of Japan) just like they BUY sex in huge numbers (the sex business in Japan is as big as the GDP of many small African countries).

  41. Aceface Says:

    Any small business in Japan is as big as the GDP of many small African countries,Marxy.
    Perhaps if we have more divorce from this year,due to the wives can take some of their husbands’ working pentions,there will be more increase of non-market sex all around the countries.And I believe many Imouto loving Otakus are more interested in animated virtual-imouto instead of the real 3D ones(talking about萌え えhere),That too might help downsizing the market of fuzoku.

  42. marxy Says:

    For the U-15 crowd,

    http://www.zakzak.co.jp/gei/2007_01/g2007013011.html

    Fifteen-year old girl in thong bikini. DVD launched where? Akihabara?! You don’t say! May there be some kind of link between failure with grown women and sexual preference for the very young?

  43. alin Says:

    –True. Older people in Japan have one of the lowest caloric intakes of all the developed countries and also the lowest amount of non-market sex.

    also one of the higher intakes of nicotine and alcohol and one of the longest lifespans. They might be up to something

  44. liljamie Says:

    “Even more shocking was a sex doll modeled after what looked like a 12 year old girl…”

    this isnt really surprising, basically any sex toy/porn store in japan sells toys with this angle… i was in the adult section of don quixote the other day and discovered a pocket vagina called “Twelve” and the copy read “shes so young, she might be too young for you” and “she might be too tight” and things of that nature… and this was don quixote where i was shopping next to actual 12 and 13 year olds… shocking.

  45. Aceface Says:

    All you nasty gaijins!
    I spend hours writing in English trying to contribute intellectual element in this blog.
    But you…..44 comments just about pedophila!
    Go see what I just found called アキバblog(don’t know how to link ,just google.It’s on the top).
    You’ll see something a lot scarly there.
    Or you guys already know perhaps,不良外人どもめ!

  46. marxy Says:

    I think there are many intellectual questions inherent in pedophilia – whether it is a historical continuation of old chattel-style “young brides” or whether it’s a relatively new post-modern sexual sociopathy where older men desire younger women because older women are perceived as a threat. Also, whether it’s increasing as a social phenomenon (which may not be the case if REAL child porn was more available in the past), whether its nice fit into that old patriarchal paradigm has given it greater acceptance, whether the crackdown on real child porn has made this “low teen idol” a lighter substitute, or whether the entertainment business in general requires all struggling young stars to indulge in these types of photos in order to take serious careers. Are imouto.tv shots an equal transaction with equal benefits for the consumers and producers? Or is the right to enjoy prepubescent girls in tight gym shorts and the right to make your daughter participate in these shots a cultural right exempt from outside (and therefore also, inside) criticism?

    I don’t think that there’s anything interesting or helpful in just saying, “The Japanese are pervs, yo.” Even if I don’t personally agree with that “imouto.tv is a progressive celebration of childhood” or that “girls have no greater goal than to become sexual fodder for socially-awkward men” and am going to be skeptical about those positions, I would rather hear opposing views rather than ignore the topic completely.

  47. W.Madsen Says:

    “I think there are many intellectual questions inherent in pedophilia”

    “whether it is a historical continuation of old chattel-style “young brides” or whether it’s a relatively new post-modern sexual sociopathy”

    ” Or is the right to enjoy prepubescent girls in tight gym shorts and the right to make your daughter participate in these shots a cultural right exempt from outside (and therefore also, inside) criticism?”

    Yes David, but lets not dress this up in academia or post-modern theories…

    I dont think anyone here was being so callus to say “The Japanese are pervs, yo.” There just comes a time when its beyond the cultural rights of a country and it just about something you feel is wrong.

    it shouldnt be” the Japanese are pervs yo”….. “its these people are pervs yo.”

    I think it was a good post David. You got attacked a little (nothing unusual) and I feel you kinda backed down alittle in your last comment? Am I misreading this completely?

    -W

  48. Aceface Says:

    Make no mistake W.Madsen,I was just joking.Your criticism are quite just and pedophilia should never be justified as culture.And it is quite legitimate for any foreigner to smell something fishy about when Japanese defend his country in the name of culture.I intended to change the course of the comments since we had already cruised enogh of the dark and gloom world of Imouto lovers.Anyway I type like this and that’s why I chose Aceface as my alias.

    Marxy:
    I was thinking about the supplyside logic of the industry you have written.
    And Okinawa Actors School and it’s franchise that had huge success in the 90’s came up to my mind.Despite locating in remote Okinawa(althogh I understand Okinawa factor was crucial to its success.)Amuro Namie,Chinen Rina,MAX,SPEED,DA PUMP,FOLDER et al popped out from there right?.
    The secret of the success is that OAS could give them professional training that suits the demand of the industry for they’ve been keeping kids in their hands for long before they become “available”.Thus OAS can supply immediately useful tarentoes in steady pace.

    OAS started this business of kids come to school and learn sing and dance while parents paying for it.Now this is a revolutionary change for small production,Because it used to be the production side who PAID their tarentos for these trainings.OAS could keep lots of future tarentos(though whether they really become one is rather questionable)before they were discovered by bigger agencies after they ‘ve come of age.
    Even the ones who would make no profit in the industry will lay some egg every month for their parents pay for what school is teaching for them,while Nabe pro and others had to keep paying rookies( and oldtimers ) their salaries even though they have no market value.

    And this buisiness model has created many followers.With these kids tarento schools everywhere around the country ,saturating the tarento school market,it was just matter of the time that small new comer productions launch Imouto TV to exploite the niche demand(which is the pedophile here) so that they can squeeze themselves into the arena.

  49. marxy Says:

    “The secret of the success is that OAS could give them professional training that suits the demand of the industry for they’ve been keeping kids in their hands for long before they become “available”.”

    Another part of the success was that Rising Pro (a subsidiary of Burning Pro) had a monopoly on all the talent coming out of the school. And Speed and Amuro Namie can actually sing and dance. (Recently, I watched some old clips of Nakayama Miho and Kyon Kyon and boy, they can’t sing at all.) I think the fact that Burning was doing it meant meant that it even had a chance at success. I doubt that any small agency could have pulled off the same thing. I think it was an experiment that worked out, rather than a master plan.

    Whatever happened to the head guy at Rising?? Oh yeah, he was arrested for tax evasion…

  50. Aceface Says:

    Yes,Rising Pro factor is important for the success of the OAS.
    But what I tried to say in the above post is OAS had lowered the psychological barrier of parents of sending their very young kids to the productions and have trained themselves for the demands of the show business.And because they got so used to the idea of the competition from very early stage,the parents'(and the kids’) minds had adopted the-ends-justify-the-means kind ideas.
    I mean who could legitimize sending your 13 year old daughter to wear thong bikini,pose and have picture taken,if their senses are not paralyzed for “Making it”.

  51. Aceface Says:

    By the way Marxy,Don’t you ever say a bad thing about KYON2!

  52. marxy Says:

    “I mean who could legitimize sending your 13 year old daughter to wear thong bikini,pose and have picture taken,if their senses are not paralyzed for “Making it”.”

    I think that was the question.

    “By the way Marxy,Don’t you ever say a bad thing about KYON2!”

    Duly noted.

  53. Mutantfrog Says:

    ‘if their senses are not paralyzed for “Making it”‘
    Hmm, I’m imagining an idea for a spiritual sequel to that old musical “42nd Street.” Ugh.