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		<title>By: Majo Saiban : Episode 1 &#8226; Blog Archive &#8226; Asian Drama Otaku : TRAINWRECKS ARE US!</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-24796</link>
		<dc:creator>Majo Saiban : Episode 1 &#8226; Blog Archive &#8226; Asian Drama Otaku : TRAINWRECKS ARE US!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heaping spoonfuls of reassuring propaganda or serious concerns bordering on paranoia. I was for the most part correct on this. Neojaponisme carried a very informative article in December explaining the system and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] heaping spoonfuls of reassuring propaganda or serious concerns bordering on paranoia. I was for the most part correct on this. Neojaponisme carried a very informative article in December explaining the system and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: manga</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23310</link>
		<dc:creator>manga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] haven&#8217;t been reading a lot of manga of late, but after reading this, I do want to read more about the first manga mentioned. I think a lot of people have this mistaken [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] haven&#8217;t been reading a lot of manga of late, but after reading this, I do want to read more about the first manga mentioned. I think a lot of people have this mistaken [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mutantfrog Travelogue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big changes in Japanese crime reporting, thanks to lay judge system</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23261</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutantfrog Travelogue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big changes in Japanese crime reporting, thanks to lay judge system</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been the process of mental and physical preparation for what lies ahead. Citizens worry over the moral implications of deciding a person&#8217;s fate, lawyers&#160;and opposition lawmakers jockey for&#160;last-minute changes to the details, and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been the process of mental and physical preparation for what lies ahead. Citizens worry over the moral implications of deciding a person&#8217;s fate, lawyers&#160;and opposition lawmakers jockey for&#160;last-minute changes to the details, and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23214</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plot thickens:

http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-4568</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plot thickens:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-4568" rel="nofollow">http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-4568</a></p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23205</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I guess Bernie Madoff didn&#039;t make any rap music, either.  He shouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I guess Bernie Madoff didn&#8217;t make any rap music, either.  He shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23204</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

I&#039;m not sure where you get the idea that there are &quot;career criminals&quot; in Japan.  Such a career path is inconsistent with Shinto morals and ethics and it is unimaginable that even one individual resident of Japan would make such a choice.  That crime exists in Japan gives strength to the argument that Japanese immigration laws should be reined in even further.  Personally, I don&#039;t think they should let anyone in or out of the country at any time.  Too risky.

I also think that the main reason we don&#039;t have a lot of insight into the career-criminal viewpoint here is that in Japan such people don&#039;t make helpful rap music to tell us what their viewpoint is in colorful and entertaining language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you get the idea that there are &#8220;career criminals&#8221; in Japan.  Such a career path is inconsistent with Shinto morals and ethics and it is unimaginable that even one individual resident of Japan would make such a choice.  That crime exists in Japan gives strength to the argument that Japanese immigration laws should be reined in even further.  Personally, I don&#8217;t think they should let anyone in or out of the country at any time.  Too risky.</p>
<p>I also think that the main reason we don&#8217;t have a lot of insight into the career-criminal viewpoint here is that in Japan such people don&#8217;t make helpful rap music to tell us what their viewpoint is in colorful and entertaining language.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt TREYVAUD</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23203</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt TREYVAUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What these babies suggest to me is that what people really object to about this system is not that it was imposed without consultation, but the very specific details: &quot;I don&#039;t want to judge people I don&#039;t know. I don&#039;t want to have to be forced to choose between insisting on my viewpoing to half-a-dozen strangers and allowing what I consider to be an injustice to take place. I don&#039;t want that responsibility and I don&#039;t want to be put in that position.&quot; 

The lack of consultation seems to be more an aggravating factor, a catalyst for the anger rather than a cause of it. 

Also, the fact that the average person seems far more concerned about how the system would affect them _as a juror_ than how it would affect them _as a defendant_ says a lot, I think, about how people view their relationship with the legal system. I would be very interested to read about what career criminals think about the plan, for example, because presumably they would identify with a different actor in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What these babies suggest to me is that what people really object to about this system is not that it was imposed without consultation, but the very specific details: &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to judge people I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t want to have to be forced to choose between insisting on my viewpoing to half-a-dozen strangers and allowing what I consider to be an injustice to take place. I don&#8217;t want that responsibility and I don&#8217;t want to be put in that position.&#8221; </p>
<p>The lack of consultation seems to be more an aggravating factor, a catalyst for the anger rather than a cause of it. </p>
<p>Also, the fact that the average person seems far more concerned about how the system would affect them _as a juror_ than how it would affect them _as a defendant_ says a lot, I think, about how people view their relationship with the legal system. I would be very interested to read about what career criminals think about the plan, for example, because presumably they would identify with a different actor in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, the latest game in the 逆転裁判 (Phoenix Wright) series also addresses this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, the latest game in the 逆転裁判 (Phoenix Wright) series also addresses this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sgt. Tanuki</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23191</link>
		<dc:creator>Sgt. Tanuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it&#039;s not groundbreaking, I still find it fascinating.  Like you say, society&#039;s working out its fears through manga.  As someone who grew up within the jury system, it&#039;s interesting to me to see what the anxieties are regarding something that I never questioned before.

But I think it could be groundbreaking, in a way.  It reminds me of the Mitani Kôki-scripted film 12人の優しい日本人.  Back in &#039;91 that was just a joke;  of course it looks prescient now.  But that film could work because Japanese audiences knew Twelve Angry Men.  My point is that many Japanese are familiar with, or think they&#039;re familiar with, the jury system because they&#039;ve seen it so often in foreign movies.  Leaving aside the question of what ramifications that particular kind of knowledge has for the real-life jury-system, it makes for an expectation, I think, that Japanese courtroom dramas are going to evolve.  That&#039;s what it sounds like these manga are trying to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it&#8217;s not groundbreaking, I still find it fascinating.  Like you say, society&#8217;s working out its fears through manga.  As someone who grew up within the jury system, it&#8217;s interesting to me to see what the anxieties are regarding something that I never questioned before.</p>
<p>But I think it could be groundbreaking, in a way.  It reminds me of the Mitani Kôki-scripted film 12人の優しい日本人.  Back in &#8217;91 that was just a joke;  of course it looks prescient now.  But that film could work because Japanese audiences knew Twelve Angry Men.  My point is that many Japanese are familiar with, or think they&#8217;re familiar with, the jury system because they&#8217;ve seen it so often in foreign movies.  Leaving aside the question of what ramifications that particular kind of knowledge has for the real-life jury-system, it makes for an expectation, I think, that Japanese courtroom dramas are going to evolve.  That&#8217;s what it sounds like these manga are trying to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonardo Boiko</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/03/24/trial-by-cartoon/comment-page-1/#comment-23190</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonardo Boiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The question is, what are we witnessing? 

IMHO it&#039;s just more &quot;manga about stuff on the news&quot;; nothing so groundbreaking, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The question is, what are we witnessing? </p>
<p>IMHO it&#8217;s just more &#8220;manga about stuff on the news&#8221;; nothing so groundbreaking, really.</p>
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