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		<title>By: Roy Berman</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/05/11/the-yanmama-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-25483</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Japan needs to get its act together with child support. Single mothers have very little they can do to force delinquent fathers to pay. And when they do negotiate compensation it’s like 1-2man a month. Most single mothers I know aren’t getting anything from “dad”. The big losers are the kids.&quot;
That cuts both ways, as the fathers also don&#039;t get any legal visitation rights. If you don&#039;t get to see your kid, why bother paying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Japan needs to get its act together with child support. Single mothers have very little they can do to force delinquent fathers to pay. And when they do negotiate compensation it’s like 1-2man a month. Most single mothers I know aren’t getting anything from “dad”. The big losers are the kids.&#8221;<br />
That cuts both ways, as the fathers also don&#8217;t get any legal visitation rights. If you don&#8217;t get to see your kid, why bother paying?</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by BoukenLou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by BoukenLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gag Halfrunt</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/05/11/the-yanmama-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-24610</link>
		<dc:creator>Gag Halfrunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 10:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then there&#039;s Néojaponisme&#039;s favourite ero-kawaii gaijin tarento idol yanmama, &lt;a href=&quot;http://neojaponisme.com/2008/10/17/leah-dizon-a-shotgun-ending/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leah Dizon&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there&#8217;s Néojaponisme&#8217;s favourite ero-kawaii gaijin tarento idol yanmama, <a href="http://neojaponisme.com/2008/10/17/leah-dizon-a-shotgun-ending/" rel="nofollow">Leah Dizon</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Topics about Idols &#187; Néojaponisme » Blog Archive » The Yanmama Boom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Topics about Idols &#187; Néojaponisme » Blog Archive » The Yanmama Boom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 07:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nj@neojaponisme.com added an interesting post today on N&#195;&#169;ojaponisme &#194;&#187; Blog Archive &#194;&#187; The Yanmama BoomHere&#8217;s a small reading&#8230; of the traditional “good girl” white-collar (or white-collar husband finding) career path: whether than means “reader models” for gyaru magazines like Masuwaka, young pop idols like Tsuji, or high-school drop outs in Ibaraki. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="mailto:nj@neojaponisme.com">nj@neojaponisme.com</a> added an interesting post today on N&Atilde;&copy;ojaponisme &Acirc;&raquo; Blog Archive &Acirc;&raquo; The Yanmama BoomHere&#8217;s a small reading&#8230; of the traditional “good girl” white-collar (or white-collar husband finding) career path: whether than means “reader models” for gyaru magazines like Masuwaka, young pop idols like Tsuji, or high-school drop outs in Ibaraki. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure that nice middle-class girls are necessarily less likely to get pregnant, but they are certainly more likely to get an abortion. 

Not only do these girls tend not to work and therefore have time to get one, they also have parents who can afford the costs and are probably more likely to fork out in order to save face. After investing so much money into their daughter&#039;s education, what is a couple of man to make sure that she doesn&#039;t ruin it all and still manages to marry a lawyer? A yankii&#039;s parents wouldn&#039;t care for they themselves would have had children at the same age. 

Considering how many Japanese youth live with their parents, having children young does not seem so difficult, especially if one has not only a mother, but also a grandmother to help with childrearing.

What is most interesting about this new trend is that it is very urban - these are gyaru in Tokyo, not yankiis in Gunma. These girls may in fact be doing all the hard work by themselves in a tiny 1dk and then working as a hostess at night to mangae both expensive rent and the 109 look for 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that nice middle-class girls are necessarily less likely to get pregnant, but they are certainly more likely to get an abortion. </p>
<p>Not only do these girls tend not to work and therefore have time to get one, they also have parents who can afford the costs and are probably more likely to fork out in order to save face. After investing so much money into their daughter&#8217;s education, what is a couple of man to make sure that she doesn&#8217;t ruin it all and still manages to marry a lawyer? A yankii&#8217;s parents wouldn&#8217;t care for they themselves would have had children at the same age. </p>
<p>Considering how many Japanese youth live with their parents, having children young does not seem so difficult, especially if one has not only a mother, but also a grandmother to help with childrearing.</p>
<p>What is most interesting about this new trend is that it is very urban &#8211; these are gyaru in Tokyo, not yankiis in Gunma. These girls may in fact be doing all the hard work by themselves in a tiny 1dk and then working as a hostess at night to mangae both expensive rent and the 109 look for 2.</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;reaction against the idea that motherhood must be a full-time, identity-consuming job.&quot;

&quot;At least in my understanding, the unplanned and hasty move into parenthood has always been a major part of Japanese rural working-class culture.&quot;

&quot;Japanese society has dropped all pretense of being a nation of universal middle-class sexual values.&quot;

Since all of the above are inventions of the high-growth period that lingered into the 1990s, I think that what we are seeing now is a combination of commercialized polish (once reserved for the massification of Taisho middle class culture and is now falling along with depato) and fast 風土 with prewar styles of community organization (rural village youth organization or collections of young people around an urban nagaya - always pretty randy).

In extreme examples, I think that we can also compare the motives for having children on the part of Japanese young people who don&#039;t see a whole lot of hope for a prosperous future and the sorts of motives on the part of inner city Americans that David Simon explored in &quot;The Corner&quot; (it gives a boy some respect as a man and allows him to move into the the man&#039;s sphere which in Japan, if you wanted to be really cynical about it, would be work, drinking, and 風俗; for a girl it suddenly gives her real social place, something not likely to be found in a crappy konbini baito after high school and if it is combined with a layer of media posh, all the better).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;reaction against the idea that motherhood must be a full-time, identity-consuming job.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;At least in my understanding, the unplanned and hasty move into parenthood has always been a major part of Japanese rural working-class culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Japanese society has dropped all pretense of being a nation of universal middle-class sexual values.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since all of the above are inventions of the high-growth period that lingered into the 1990s, I think that what we are seeing now is a combination of commercialized polish (once reserved for the massification of Taisho middle class culture and is now falling along with depato) and fast 風土 with prewar styles of community organization (rural village youth organization or collections of young people around an urban nagaya &#8211; always pretty randy).</p>
<p>In extreme examples, I think that we can also compare the motives for having children on the part of Japanese young people who don&#8217;t see a whole lot of hope for a prosperous future and the sorts of motives on the part of inner city Americans that David Simon explored in &#8220;The Corner&#8221; (it gives a boy some respect as a man and allows him to move into the the man&#8217;s sphere which in Japan, if you wanted to be really cynical about it, would be work, drinking, and 風俗; for a girl it suddenly gives her real social place, something not likely to be found in a crappy konbini baito after high school and if it is combined with a layer of media posh, all the better).</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But still, why is this a working class thing mostly? Are they just having more sex, using contraceptives less (if that&#039;s possible) or having fewer abortions?

Or do they want kids sooner? I mean, if you get out of high school and just have a lifetime of shitty jobs ahead of you, what does it matter if you have kids now or wait a few years? Ok, I can come up with some reasons to wait still, but I could understand women who just don&#039;t see the benefit of waiting. Especially if you are pregnant already by accident, it&#039;s not so hard to say &quot;Why not?&quot; and have the kid. Upper class women are probably more likely to have things they want to do before they have kids.

That said, I will never understand Japanese aversion to birth control. Even if you don&#039;t think abortion is a big deal morally, from what I understand it&#039;s still physically a bad time and you have to take time off of work/school and stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But still, why is this a working class thing mostly? Are they just having more sex, using contraceptives less (if that&#8217;s possible) or having fewer abortions?</p>
<p>Or do they want kids sooner? I mean, if you get out of high school and just have a lifetime of shitty jobs ahead of you, what does it matter if you have kids now or wait a few years? Ok, I can come up with some reasons to wait still, but I could understand women who just don&#8217;t see the benefit of waiting. Especially if you are pregnant already by accident, it&#8217;s not so hard to say &#8220;Why not?&#8221; and have the kid. Upper class women are probably more likely to have things they want to do before they have kids.</p>
<p>That said, I will never understand Japanese aversion to birth control. Even if you don&#8217;t think abortion is a big deal morally, from what I understand it&#8217;s still physically a bad time and you have to take time off of work/school and stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Nandasoreya!?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nandasoreya!?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japan needs to get its act together with child support.  Single mothers have very little they can do to force delinquent fathers to pay.  And when they do negotiate compensation it&#039;s like 1-2man a month.  Most single mothers I know aren&#039;t getting anything from &quot;dad&quot;.  The big losers are the kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japan needs to get its act together with child support.  Single mothers have very little they can do to force delinquent fathers to pay.  And when they do negotiate compensation it&#8217;s like 1-2man a month.  Most single mothers I know aren&#8217;t getting anything from &#8220;dad&#8221;.  The big losers are the kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Nojaponisme Blog Archive The Yanmama Boom &#124; Quit Smoking Plan!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nojaponisme Blog Archive The Yanmama Boom &#124; Quit Smoking Plan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 11:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A nice web master added an interesting post on Nojaponisme Blog Archive The Yanmama BoomHere&#8217;s a small excerpt(nb underage sex counted as an act of delinquency - so did dating, actually; and also shoplifting, smoking, etc.) So working-class girls are as âdelinquentâ as working-class boys, but they get less schooling, often marrying straight &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A nice web master added an interesting post on Nojaponisme Blog Archive The Yanmama BoomHere&#8217;s a small excerpt(nb underage sex counted as an act of delinquency &#8211; so did dating, actually; and also shoplifting, smoking, etc.) So working-class girls are as âdelinquentâ as working-class boys, but they get less schooling, often marrying straight &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: W. David MARX</title>
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		<dc:creator>W. David MARX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you bring up a really great point that the entire concept of &quot;graduation from worker to mother&quot; is based on middle-class lifestyles. That being said, I think there was more &quot;graduation&quot; to at least sober lifestyles for working class youth in the past. You were not allowed to be a 21 year-old bosozoku.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you bring up a really great point that the entire concept of &#8220;graduation from worker to mother&#8221; is based on middle-class lifestyles. That being said, I think there was more &#8220;graduation&#8221; to at least sober lifestyles for working class youth in the past. You were not allowed to be a 21 year-old bosozoku.</p>
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