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	<title>Comments on: Loss and Recovery: 1Q84 and Murakami&#039;s Sunken Continent</title>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/07/28/loss-and-recovery-1q84-and-murakamis-sunken-continent/comment-page-1/#comment-34871</link>
		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Xee, sorry about the generalization. To tell you the truth, I have trouble reading myself into boku so I just assumed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn Xee, sorry about the generalization. To tell you the truth, I have trouble reading myself into boku so I just assumed.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/07/28/loss-and-recovery-1q84-and-murakamis-sunken-continent/comment-page-1/#comment-34784</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of his themes that I thought was a poorly-executed great idea was the whole &quot;everyone is two different sexes&quot; thing from Kafka (can&#039;t remember which Greek dude he refers to). It comes up in the Kafka half of the narrative when he gets to the library and meets Oshima. I think xee&#039;s comment hints at it, too - gender-identification is a lot more fluid these days. Too bad it didn&#039;t have much to do with the rest of the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of his themes that I thought was a poorly-executed great idea was the whole &#8220;everyone is two different sexes&#8221; thing from Kafka (can&#8217;t remember which Greek dude he refers to). It comes up in the Kafka half of the narrative when he gets to the library and meets Oshima. I think xee&#8217;s comment hints at it, too &#8211; gender-identification is a lot more fluid these days. Too bad it didn&#8217;t have much to do with the rest of the book.</p>
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		<title>By: xee</title>
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		<dc:creator>xee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on behalf of the ladies i would like to respectfully submit that we&#039;re just as capable of reading ourselves into &lt;i&gt;boku&lt;/i&gt; as we are into vague idealised females w/ pretty ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on behalf of the ladies i would like to respectfully submit that we&#8217;re just as capable of reading ourselves into <i>boku</i> as we are into vague idealised females w/ pretty ears.</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/07/28/loss-and-recovery-1q84-and-murakamis-sunken-continent/comment-page-1/#comment-34672</link>
		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m half joking. Half. Murakami does what he does - depicts the intersect of a very well crafted literary male id with postmodern fantasyscapes. I agree that Murakami does a good job of representing the gulf that exists between people (self and other)) but I haven&#039;t seen him come to many insightful conclusions on this theme. It is, however, a lot more mournful and poetic than my masturbation crack would imply.

Come to think of it, I imagine that this has something to do with my Murakami is so popular with female readers - his females are so vaguely characterized that it encourages audiences to read themselves into the narrative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m half joking. Half. Murakami does what he does &#8211; depicts the intersect of a very well crafted literary male id with postmodern fantasyscapes. I agree that Murakami does a good job of representing the gulf that exists between people (self and other)) but I haven&#8217;t seen him come to many insightful conclusions on this theme. It is, however, a lot more mournful and poetic than my masturbation crack would imply.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, I imagine that this has something to do with my Murakami is so popular with female readers &#8211; his females are so vaguely characterized that it encourages audiences to read themselves into the narrative.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I&#039;m late to comment here. Haven&#039;t checked back in a while.

shan - If you enjoyed Kafka, then you&#039;ll probably like 1Q84, too. It took me a while to see the societal criticism in his work (actually, I once wrote a whole paper saying he shouldn&#039;t be read politically), but I think you&#039;ll see it eventually.

M-Bone - I generally agree with you, but I see it less as masturbation and more as commentary on how fundamentally solitary human existence is. Sure, we interact with people, but only from our own viewpoint. In any interaction at all, we&#039;re left to interpret a huge amount of information since we don&#039;t know what things are actually like for the other person. I&#039;m convinced Murakami uses 温もり to represent the closest thing to genuine human interaction in a lot of his works, including 1Q84. 温もり isn&#039;t only sex, but I think it is related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I&#8217;m late to comment here. Haven&#8217;t checked back in a while.</p>
<p>shan &#8211; If you enjoyed Kafka, then you&#8217;ll probably like 1Q84, too. It took me a while to see the societal criticism in his work (actually, I once wrote a whole paper saying he shouldn&#8217;t be read politically), but I think you&#8217;ll see it eventually.</p>
<p>M-Bone &#8211; I generally agree with you, but I see it less as masturbation and more as commentary on how fundamentally solitary human existence is. Sure, we interact with people, but only from our own viewpoint. In any interaction at all, we&#8217;re left to interpret a huge amount of information since we don&#8217;t know what things are actually like for the other person. I&#8217;m convinced Murakami uses 温もり to represent the closest thing to genuine human interaction in a lot of his works, including 1Q84. 温もり isn&#8217;t only sex, but I think it is related.</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex in Murakami? Masterbation. Since most of his female characters are created as a facet of &quot;Boku&quot;, it is like he is having sex with himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex in Murakami? Masterbation. Since most of his female characters are created as a facet of &#8220;Boku&#8221;, it is like he is having sex with himself.</p>
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		<title>By: shan</title>
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		<dc:creator>shan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same as Homebrew Japan, I can&#039;t help but to stop after the first section as well because I didn&#039;t want to spoil it for myself... =)

I, however, managed to catch the second last paragraph in your review, and I am just curious to see how would someone&#039;s opinion of Murakami&#039;s work be if his/her first book is Kafka on the Shore (because it was the first book I picked up and ever since have been hooked on his novels =P).

I am reading The Wind-up Bird Chronicle now, and the general impression I get from his works is that his stories are so SURREAL. Like totally bizarre things happening to very ordinary people (i&#039;m thinking of Toru Okada, who encounters lotsa weird stuffs ever since his cat disappeared; the Calcutec guy from Hard-Boiled Wonderland who works for this freaky scientist working in a laboratory located in a very strange place; Kafka.. ok maybe Kafka wasn&#039;t THAT ordinary to begin with, but I felt he was definitely more ordinary than Oshima/Ms Saeki; and perhaps even the very ordinary citizens he interviewed in his Underground book, to whom something totally &quot;extra-ordinary&quot; happened the very morning in the subway).

Anyway, I think of myself as a very &quot;shallow&quot; reader =P. I often do not see the cultural reflections/criticisms of the society etc etc etc that appear in his works, be it intentionally or unintentionally. I enjoy his works purely because I find them entertaining and easy to read. I hope this doesn&#039;t mean that I am doing his novels injustice! =P But there’s certainly one theme that I often do not understand in his novels, which is sex. To me, sex scenes in his novels appear almost too abruptly and often leave me thinking: what does this have to do with the story? So far, what I’ve figured is that his characters often suffer from highly pent up emotions that can only be released via intercourse (I need more insights!!).

To end off, I would like to apologize for this long post full of rants. I totally adore Haruki Murakami&#039;s work, but I can&#039;t share the joy/emotions/opinions/thoughts of reading them with anyone else because my friends find his works too &quot;bizarre&quot; for their liking  -_____-“ I am looking forward to 1Q84 and will definitely snap it up once the translated version is released! Meanwhile, I still have his other novels to savour as I am still an “amateur Haruki fan” and have yet to finish all his works =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same as Homebrew Japan, I can&#8217;t help but to stop after the first section as well because I didn&#8217;t want to spoil it for myself&#8230; =)</p>
<p>I, however, managed to catch the second last paragraph in your review, and I am just curious to see how would someone&#8217;s opinion of Murakami&#8217;s work be if his/her first book is Kafka on the Shore (because it was the first book I picked up and ever since have been hooked on his novels =P).</p>
<p>I am reading The Wind-up Bird Chronicle now, and the general impression I get from his works is that his stories are so SURREAL. Like totally bizarre things happening to very ordinary people (i&#8217;m thinking of Toru Okada, who encounters lotsa weird stuffs ever since his cat disappeared; the Calcutec guy from Hard-Boiled Wonderland who works for this freaky scientist working in a laboratory located in a very strange place; Kafka.. ok maybe Kafka wasn&#8217;t THAT ordinary to begin with, but I felt he was definitely more ordinary than Oshima/Ms Saeki; and perhaps even the very ordinary citizens he interviewed in his Underground book, to whom something totally &#8220;extra-ordinary&#8221; happened the very morning in the subway).</p>
<p>Anyway, I think of myself as a very &#8220;shallow&#8221; reader =P. I often do not see the cultural reflections/criticisms of the society etc etc etc that appear in his works, be it intentionally or unintentionally. I enjoy his works purely because I find them entertaining and easy to read. I hope this doesn&#8217;t mean that I am doing his novels injustice! =P But there’s certainly one theme that I often do not understand in his novels, which is sex. To me, sex scenes in his novels appear almost too abruptly and often leave me thinking: what does this have to do with the story? So far, what I’ve figured is that his characters often suffer from highly pent up emotions that can only be released via intercourse (I need more insights!!).</p>
<p>To end off, I would like to apologize for this long post full of rants. I totally adore Haruki Murakami&#8217;s work, but I can&#8217;t share the joy/emotions/opinions/thoughts of reading them with anyone else because my friends find his works too &#8220;bizarre&#8221; for their liking  -_____-“ I am looking forward to 1Q84 and will definitely snap it up once the translated version is released! Meanwhile, I still have his other novels to savour as I am still an “amateur Haruki fan” and have yet to finish all his works =P</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a &quot;shinsho&quot; should still be in the &quot;new&quot; section. Of course, lots of bookstores are putting together Murakami displays these days....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a &#8220;shinsho&#8221; should still be in the &#8220;new&#8221; section. Of course, lots of bookstores are putting together Murakami displays these days&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for the suggestion. Sounds like a pretty interesting book. I&#039;ll pick it up if I see it around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for the suggestion. Sounds like a pretty interesting book. I&#8217;ll pick it up if I see it around.</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2009/07/28/loss-and-recovery-1q84-and-murakamis-sunken-continent/comment-page-1/#comment-31873</link>
		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

You should check out Otsuka Eiji&#039;s latest - 物語論で読む村上春樹と宮崎駿. He has some of the same problems with the Big M that I do, but he actually compares &quot;Boku&quot; to Luke Skywalker and asks 「１Q８４」にはなぜ何も書かれていないのか. You should check it out and a response might be an interesting focus for another Neojaponisme essay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>You should check out Otsuka Eiji&#8217;s latest &#8211; 物語論で読む村上春樹と宮崎駿. He has some of the same problems with the Big M that I do, but he actually compares &#8220;Boku&#8221; to Luke Skywalker and asks 「１Q８４」にはなぜ何も書かれていないのか. You should check it out and a response might be an interesting focus for another Neojaponisme essay.</p>
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