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		<title>By: 波都陸</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2010/01/25/better-luck-next-tie/comment-page-1/#comment-44034</link>
		<dc:creator>波都陸</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I get it, the government only gets excited when you take your clothes *off*.  What a typical lack of administrative imagination.  When I think about all those aristocrats back in the Heian period who readily embraced wearing 12 layers of kimono to save the planet...it&#039;s heartbreaking to see how far society has fallen over the last 800 years.  I&#039;m sure Alex Kerr would have something righteous to say about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I get it, the government only gets excited when you take your clothes *off*.  What a typical lack of administrative imagination.  When I think about all those aristocrats back in the Heian period who readily embraced wearing 12 layers of kimono to save the planet&#8230;it&#8217;s heartbreaking to see how far society has fallen over the last 800 years.  I&#8217;m sure Alex Kerr would have something righteous to say about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Shii</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2010/01/25/better-luck-next-tie/comment-page-1/#comment-44030</link>
		<dc:creator>Shii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Namito: According to Wikipedia, the variety shows were all over &quot;Warm Biz&quot; in winter 2005, but not surprisingly, without a government mandate, salarymen were even less willing to don a muffler than take off their tie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Namito: According to Wikipedia, the variety shows were all over &#8220;Warm Biz&#8221; in winter 2005, but not surprisingly, without a government mandate, salarymen were even less willing to don a muffler than take off their tie.</p>
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		<title>By: apeescape</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2010/01/25/better-luck-next-tie/comment-page-1/#comment-44026</link>
		<dc:creator>apeescape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/do-green-products-make-us-better-people.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;licensing effect,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; where small green actions may lead to less big green actions. Ending Cool Biz may be an overture to shutting down the car industry :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/do-green-products-make-us-better-people.php" rel="nofollow">&#8220;licensing effect,&#8221;</a> where small green actions may lead to less big green actions. Ending Cool Biz may be an overture to shutting down the car industry :)</p>
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		<title>By: 波都陸</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2010/01/25/better-luck-next-tie/comment-page-1/#comment-44022</link>
		<dc:creator>波都陸</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously the real reason Cool Biz doesn&#039;t work is that it&#039;s only relevant for half of the year. They need to get cracking on &quot;Hot Biz&quot;.  The answer is to change Japanese office policy so you are required to swaddle yourself in a bear rug and a wool stocking cap at your desk once it gets chilly out. I don&#039;t know about you guys, but I&#039;m thinking about getting a fur-lined tie to help me survive through cherry blossom season. This kotatsu is just turning me into a worthless slug incapable of finishing any work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the real reason Cool Biz doesn&#8217;t work is that it&#8217;s only relevant for half of the year. They need to get cracking on &#8220;Hot Biz&#8221;.  The answer is to change Japanese office policy so you are required to swaddle yourself in a bear rug and a wool stocking cap at your desk once it gets chilly out. I don&#8217;t know about you guys, but I&#8217;m thinking about getting a fur-lined tie to help me survive through cherry blossom season. This kotatsu is just turning me into a worthless slug incapable of finishing any work.</p>
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		<title>By: Adamu</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2010/01/25/better-luck-next-tie/comment-page-1/#comment-44012</link>
		<dc:creator>Adamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;SHUT YOUR DOORS campaign&quot;

Funny thing happened on the walk home the other day:

The door to a department store was left open, so a guy walking in ahead of me shut it behind him, right in the face of the woman walking behind him. I guess the environment was more important to him than common courtesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SHUT YOUR DOORS campaign&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny thing happened on the walk home the other day:</p>
<p>The door to a department store was left open, so a guy walking in ahead of me shut it behind him, right in the face of the woman walking behind him. I guess the environment was more important to him than common courtesy.</p>
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		<title>By: Adamu</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2010/01/25/better-luck-next-tie/comment-page-1/#comment-44011</link>
		<dc:creator>Adamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, he has a responsibility to do something, but if I were him I would approach it differently. 

I&#039;d bring a clear solution to the table and back it with evidence and facts. Maybe the politicians and the Japanese public are sympathetic to emotional appeals to protect businesses, but something tells me they won&#039;t confer the same sacred status to the tie industry as that afforded to local retail districts and small machine shops. 

After the meeting, this guy had the press&#039;s attention. He could have used that opportunity to shit on the entire Cool Biz endeavor by citing at least one study I have heard of that suggests the campaign may slow down the economy (google &quot;bloomberg cool biz&quot;). 

The concept that wearing ties makes you look dignified is also pretty convincing, just not the way this guy put it. Why not point out the obvious fashion deficiency of simply taking the jacket and tie out of the suit equation? 

And that&#039;s about the extent of it. Sure, he is being paid to try, but if I were him I&#039;d accept the limits of trying to get an official mandate for ties in the workplace. Even without the global warming aspect, wearing ties in the summer doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense in most instances, and I think that&#039;s part of why Cool Biz had the appeal that it did. Rather than shield his clients from reality, he might suggest they try and find new markets, diversify, or consolidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, he has a responsibility to do something, but if I were him I would approach it differently. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d bring a clear solution to the table and back it with evidence and facts. Maybe the politicians and the Japanese public are sympathetic to emotional appeals to protect businesses, but something tells me they won&#8217;t confer the same sacred status to the tie industry as that afforded to local retail districts and small machine shops. </p>
<p>After the meeting, this guy had the press&#8217;s attention. He could have used that opportunity to shit on the entire Cool Biz endeavor by citing at least one study I have heard of that suggests the campaign may slow down the economy (google &#8220;bloomberg cool biz&#8221;). </p>
<p>The concept that wearing ties makes you look dignified is also pretty convincing, just not the way this guy put it. Why not point out the obvious fashion deficiency of simply taking the jacket and tie out of the suit equation? </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s about the extent of it. Sure, he is being paid to try, but if I were him I&#8217;d accept the limits of trying to get an official mandate for ties in the workplace. Even without the global warming aspect, wearing ties in the summer doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense in most instances, and I think that&#8217;s part of why Cool Biz had the appeal that it did. Rather than shield his clients from reality, he might suggest they try and find new markets, diversify, or consolidate.</p>
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		<title>By: landquest</title>
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		<dc:creator>landquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mulboyne-

I tell you what I&#039;D do.  I&#039;d start advocating the &#039;stop idle&#039;-ing program.

Nobody ever gets anywhere by complaining, and going against a cause that is seen as good for the environment bodes twice as badly for your case.

The necktie industry can&#039;t blame cool biz, but in 5 minutes I came up with two ideas:

1. Instead of advocating against a popular eco-campaign, advocate for a once popular but seemingly forgotten eco-campaign.  Necktie companies + eco-legistlation = good image!

2. Ask that people buy rotating tie racks and install them in the employee lounge, where employees may put on ties for meeting clients and such, and take them off when things get sweaty.

Woops! My brain just came up with a third one:

3. SHUT YOUR DOORS campaign, for every company that needlessly leaves it&#039;s doors wide open in the summer, then blasts cold air into the store as well as out into the humid streets.  Tokyu Hands, for shame, does this in one of it&#039;s biggest stores in Shibuya.

Necktie sellers should campaign with Tokyu Hands to get all these smaller, less responsible businesses to shut their wide open doors in Summer.

(btw my company still requests that we wear neckties in the summer and boosts it&#039;s a/c way too high, mostly for the comfortability of our customers.  In that sense, &#039;cool biz&#039; has little bearing on our purchases of neckties.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulboyne-</p>
<p>I tell you what I&#8217;D do.  I&#8217;d start advocating the &#8216;stop idle&#8217;-ing program.</p>
<p>Nobody ever gets anywhere by complaining, and going against a cause that is seen as good for the environment bodes twice as badly for your case.</p>
<p>The necktie industry can&#8217;t blame cool biz, but in 5 minutes I came up with two ideas:</p>
<p>1. Instead of advocating against a popular eco-campaign, advocate for a once popular but seemingly forgotten eco-campaign.  Necktie companies + eco-legistlation = good image!</p>
<p>2. Ask that people buy rotating tie racks and install them in the employee lounge, where employees may put on ties for meeting clients and such, and take them off when things get sweaty.</p>
<p>Woops! My brain just came up with a third one:</p>
<p>3. SHUT YOUR DOORS campaign, for every company that needlessly leaves it&#8217;s doors wide open in the summer, then blasts cold air into the store as well as out into the humid streets.  Tokyu Hands, for shame, does this in one of it&#8217;s biggest stores in Shibuya.</p>
<p>Necktie sellers should campaign with Tokyu Hands to get all these smaller, less responsible businesses to shut their wide open doors in Summer.</p>
<p>(btw my company still requests that we wear neckties in the summer and boosts it&#8217;s a/c way too high, mostly for the comfortability of our customers.  In that sense, &#8216;cool biz&#8217; has little bearing on our purchases of neckties.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mulboyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mulboyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, if you ran the industry association for tie manufacturers and saw your sales decline as a direct result of a government initiative, what action would you take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, if you ran the industry association for tie manufacturers and saw your sales decline as a direct result of a government initiative, what action would you take?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaishin</title>
		<link>http://neojaponisme.com/2010/01/25/better-luck-next-tie/comment-page-1/#comment-43997</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaishin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy:&quot;Why not divert efforts from Cool Biz into genuine systems of taxation and penalisation against the companies and industries that produce the most emmissions?&quot;  &lt;&lt;&lt; Can&#039;t agree more.

There are much more serious environmental issues out there than arguing what salary men should or should not wear... This cool biz hubbub is just a smokescreen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:&#8221;Why not divert efforts from Cool Biz into genuine systems of taxation and penalisation against the companies and industries that produce the most emmissions?&#8221;  &lt;&lt;&lt; Can&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>There are much more serious environmental issues out there than arguing what salary men should or should not wear&#8230; This cool biz hubbub is just a smokescreen.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt TREYVAUD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt TREYVAUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Ties just don&#039;t know how the game is played. You don&#039;t see the cufflink industry or the sleevemakers embarrassing themselves like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Ties just don&#8217;t know how the game is played. You don&#8217;t see the cufflink industry or the sleevemakers embarrassing themselves like this.</p>
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